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i think jon and i are arguing the flipside of, arguing the opposite side of the coin but i don't think we are in disagreement at all. >> we have time for one more question. in the back in the red sweater. >> i'm curious to your answer, we have members of the supreme court today that feel they should rule their decisions on what the people were thinking at the time of the constitution being written. now, where'd you come down on something like that? [applause] >> you give me a pointer to the supreme court, i'd be happy to set them straight. [laughter] look, the question of original intent is one that historians by and large reject. i'm also a lawyer so i don't rejected quite as quickly as historians do. what the supreme court has said again and again, this is interesting, important and interesting, the one provision of the constitution that should be bounded by its history is the first amendment. you see that over and over again in the supreme court cases. so even the members of the court to reject the notion of original intent in most areas really focus on it in the first amendment. we
i think jon and i are arguing the flipside of, arguing the opposite side of the coin but i don't think we are in disagreement at all. >> we have time for one more question. in the back in the red sweater. >> i'm curious to your answer, we have members of the supreme court today that feel they should rule their decisions on what the people were thinking at the time of the constitution being written. now, where'd you come down on something like that? [applause] >> you give me a...
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so, he took this travel, but of course he could travel a lot more quickly than jon stewart was able to travel so he stopped in cairo to give lectures. the lectures were ultimately published under the title political ideal of the rule of law. and this forms essential chapters in the book of the constitution of liberty. when he returned from the trip, he said in an interview in 1955, the plan for the cause edition$p of liberty stood clearly before my mind. from there, he spent a year -- there's three sections in thep7 constitution of liberty. he spent a year and each then a final year and proving his prose for the entire book. he finished his manuscript on may 8, 1959, which was hayek's 60th earth day. a happy coincidence, but if it is hardly a need to get it done. it was officially published in 1960. as arnold said, did not receive immediate acclamation. its influence they think has grown through time. for those who don't own the book, of course this out as particularly an interesting chapter is the epilogue, why am can serve it as from all reports, although he never said what he wrote
so, he took this travel, but of course he could travel a lot more quickly than jon stewart was able to travel so he stopped in cairo to give lectures. the lectures were ultimately published under the title political ideal of the rule of law. and this forms essential chapters in the book of the constitution of liberty. when he returned from the trip, he said in an interview in 1955, the plan for the cause edition$p of liberty stood clearly before my mind. from there, he spent a year -- there's...
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edward hines had another son, a brother of duncan hines huji david jon porter and john porter hines was the grandfather of the wonderful lady to provide it with a photograph that you see on the dust jacket and so many of the manuscript is that i used to describe john porter and his family. so it is a very interesting crowd of people, and they are all still in evidence from kentucky. they don't move away from here very much. >> how long did it take you to put this together? >> i suppose the manuscript was given to me about 1995. infantry 1995 those and when this book was finally released in february of this year, i published a number of other books and so it's not as though i took all that time. i published a book called the retreat from gettysburg in 2005 and from really 2005 and four were to begin working in earnest on this and what i did was, again, i corrected manuscript so that it is readable and -- but you still have the flavor of john porter and then what i did is i annotated it so that when it john porter is mentioning any of these people come and there are hundreds of people tha
edward hines had another son, a brother of duncan hines huji david jon porter and john porter hines was the grandfather of the wonderful lady to provide it with a photograph that you see on the dust jacket and so many of the manuscript is that i used to describe john porter and his family. so it is a very interesting crowd of people, and they are all still in evidence from kentucky. they don't move away from here very much. >> how long did it take you to put this together? >> i...
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i happen to know jon stewart outside of the studio. like you, he is a serious man despite being funny. when i was on the show last week, he came into the green room and we had a spirited discussion about political issues. he would not touch those issues on the show. i knew him to be serious. but he had a side to him that all of the people couldn't see. i wanted to try to bring that out. i think sometimes serious people can be dull. nonetheless, it doesn't make their ideas less interesting to examine. >> i like him funny. i like him funny. >> well, in the country, people ask why did you have your first interview jon stewart, why is he the first interview in the book? i said because mark twain was available. mark twain, jon stewart, they understand in the society that the truth goes down better if it's marinated in humor. i don't have a sense of humor. i'm a baptist. we don't make jokes. and i do and jon stewart and mark twain if he were here, far more effective than an journalist in trying to get people as close as possible to the verif
i happen to know jon stewart outside of the studio. like you, he is a serious man despite being funny. when i was on the show last week, he came into the green room and we had a spirited discussion about political issues. he would not touch those issues on the show. i knew him to be serious. but he had a side to him that all of the people couldn't see. i wanted to try to bring that out. i think sometimes serious people can be dull. nonetheless, it doesn't make their ideas less interesting to...
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jon and i go back about 30 years. i told john, it doesn't matter, the first deals with npr,. [inaudible] i've been on the board of earning matters since its inception. and although i'm not in the education field, my contributions have generally been more on the entertainment side of the business, i have been so impressed with john earning matters over the years. i've heard from a lot of people in the media, and the balance in the quality of what learning matters presents has presented for 30 years now, to me one of the most amazing things. you see a piece of learning matters and it is balance, it is unlikely they were everything has an agenda. learning matters, both sides get an opportunity to state their peace in their own words, their own manner. but john doesn't shy away from controversy. everybody is there, everybody gets a say. we're talking about an obsession that is one peabody awards, several emmy awards. the work is top top notch. there's nothing better on tv, no one better than this than john. know windows is industry better than john. whatever the issue is, the bes
jon and i go back about 30 years. i told john, it doesn't matter, the first deals with npr,. [inaudible] i've been on the board of earning matters since its inception. and although i'm not in the education field, my contributions have generally been more on the entertainment side of the business, i have been so impressed with john earning matters over the years. i've heard from a lot of people in the media, and the balance in the quality of what learning matters presents has presented for 30...
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jon also went after david baltimore who won the nobel prize and did research over 10 years. it was outrageous the american society of clinical oncologist bernie fisher walks in. he gets a standing ovation. there is no word of this and we should have been screaming and yelling into the modern hero of modern-day medicine. he was exonerated and had to raise $3 billion. long story. when obama passed a wonderful health care law, there is john dingell standing next to the president and how wonderful. this man probably cause the death of women with breast cancer because the trial was delayed two or three years but then with the health care bill, did anybody question to the doctors were lowered there expertise when betsy macquarie had a forum. >> i am sorry. >> there was a forum here so my question is, what do we do to get trained physicians in public relations to go about it? we do work that nobody knows about. >> i completely agree that the clinicians and scientists are terrible at interacting with the media. i will tell you why and how we can get better part of the reason it is t
jon also went after david baltimore who won the nobel prize and did research over 10 years. it was outrageous the american society of clinical oncologist bernie fisher walks in. he gets a standing ovation. there is no word of this and we should have been screaming and yelling into the modern hero of modern-day medicine. he was exonerated and had to raise $3 billion. long story. when obama passed a wonderful health care law, there is john dingell standing next to the president and how wonderful....
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it is speculation to argue that a visit to jon barnes darden changed the course of history. it seems a little bit more than just pure coincidence that what happens here in the summer of 1787 with the delegate of the constitutional convention of visiting the garden. they had assembled in may 1787 in philadelphia. one of the most controversial points during the convention was out of power between the larger and the smaller states was to be distributed. and until then each state had one vote. now the larger states favored proportional representation because that would give them greater leverage in congress well unsurprisingly the smaller states wanted to keep the one states, one-vote rule. debate was heated. by mid july the convention was that the verge of collapse. then someone suggested. on saturday the 14th of july july 17877 delegates arrived here at 6:00 in the morning. to this card and which by then it was run by john barton son, john julie. i know it is a bit off-putting, but i will send you a picture. the delegates spent three hours here. they admired the trees and shru
it is speculation to argue that a visit to jon barnes darden changed the course of history. it seems a little bit more than just pure coincidence that what happens here in the summer of 1787 with the delegate of the constitutional convention of visiting the garden. they had assembled in may 1787 in philadelphia. one of the most controversial points during the convention was out of power between the larger and the smaller states was to be distributed. and until then each state had one vote. now...
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jon meacham leads tonight's discussion, a pulitzer rise-winning author and commentator on politics, history and religions based in america. he?g is editor at large at wnetg public media and contribute torg the pbs news magazine "need to know." since we're recording tonight's presentation on booktv, have to ask your questions from the microphone right here. we won't be able to accept questions from your seat. but now join me, please, in welcoming our guest. [applause] >> oh, i loved it. thank you. thank you all very much. thank you to the tenement museum which has in a relatively short time become such an importanty part of the fabric of the city. you hear a lot about it even in the american south where i come from, and they actually are struck that not everything is a tenement. [laughter] but, and so they can come and look and see what it used to be like. but thank you for your hospitality. and congratulations to louisa who has written, i think, a wonderful book, a deeply researched and engagingly written account of her own family which is not always an easy thing to do. and i want to sta
jon meacham leads tonight's discussion, a pulitzer rise-winning author and commentator on politics, history and religions based in america. he?g is editor at large at wnetg public media and contribute torg the pbs news magazine "need to know." since we're recording tonight's presentation on booktv, have to ask your questions from the microphone right here. we won't be able to accept questions from your seat. but now join me, please, in welcoming our guest. [applause] >> oh, i...
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i do watch jon stewart and stephen colbert. [laughter] i am fine with that. that is about all i can stand before my blood starts to boil. the problem that i have with stewart and colbert is that they've march 4 sanity a lot of them are in congress, the problem i have is one thing after another and lookout crazy this is. look how ridiculous this is it is not they're job but they don't the dust to think about all of these things together. you could fix any one and do so have all of the other problems they will do a show about the next night and all of these are significant roadblocks to politics in our country. i was trying to do two things. we have to separate genesee's, the plural of genesis. we tried to explain why this totally excellent guy who somehow got to be president of the united states wins the supermajority of two houses could not make good on his promises. and to explain all of the significant roadblocks in the system that answers the question, not just focus on the one at the moment or there was a crisis in the gulf of mexico so the problem is we
i do watch jon stewart and stephen colbert. [laughter] i am fine with that. that is about all i can stand before my blood starts to boil. the problem that i have with stewart and colbert is that they've march 4 sanity a lot of them are in congress, the problem i have is one thing after another and lookout crazy this is. look how ridiculous this is it is not they're job but they don't the dust to think about all of these things together. you could fix any one and do so have all of the other...
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tonight's conversation is a tie jon meacham, executive editor and vice president ran an vice president random house conifer editor of "newsweek" and pulitzer prize-winning author and commentator on politics history of religious faith in?gg america.?g?g?g7g?g he is editor at large at wnet?gg public media and contributor to the pbs television newsmagazine. after their conversation, love the opportunity to ask questions presents a recording to its presentation, you have to ask questions from the microphone hereççççç [applause] >> thank you love very much.x thank you to the tenement museum who has been a relativelyyy short-lived become an important part of the fabric of the city. you hear a lot even in the american south, where i come from. a deeply researched and engage in a written account of her own family, which is not always an easy thing to do. and they want to start with some specific questions and then we're going to read a couple of things. then they will be a little socialist jeopardy to keep her going. but will start with why this book now? >> this book is, as you c
tonight's conversation is a tie jon meacham, executive editor and vice president ran an vice president random house conifer editor of "newsweek" and pulitzer prize-winning author and commentator on politics history of religious faith in?gg america.?g?g?g7g?g he is editor at large at wnet?gg public media and contributor to the pbs television newsmagazine. after their conversation, love the opportunity to ask questions presents a recording to its presentation, you have to ask questions...
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jon stewart and steven colbert were able to triple the numbers it the tea party rallies. that says something. i would never be little fatigue party movement because it has inspired a lot of people. the spending is absolutely out of control. obama has done nothing with his administration. i am as scared as everybody else about what is going on. it is poorly organized. i don't understand the message. sarah palin is a leader i am not getting behind it. >> i don't consider sarah palin the leader but i just think that -- >> with all respect, do you know who the leader is? >> no because it is grass roots. basically the whole thing seems to be go back to the constitution, stop trembling the constitution. stop spending so much money that no one can repay. >> i am as frustrated as you are. i completely agree. i feel like the republican party better start listening to what the people are saying. there is a message and the republican party has the ability to put that forward. i honestly think the potential to happen is we will throw everybody out. i don't think it will just the repu
jon stewart and steven colbert were able to triple the numbers it the tea party rallies. that says something. i would never be little fatigue party movement because it has inspired a lot of people. the spending is absolutely out of control. obama has done nothing with his administration. i am as scared as everybody else about what is going on. it is poorly organized. i don't understand the message. sarah palin is a leader i am not getting behind it. >> i don't consider sarah palin the...
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if it were really that big, jon stewart and stephen colbert were able to triple the tea party numbers at this rally, it says something. i would never belittle the tea party. i understand why people are angry. spending is out of control. obama has done little to nothing. i'm just as scared as everybody else about a lot of things going on. i think it's poorly organized. i don't understand the message. if sarah palin is the leader, i'm not getting behind it. >> well, i don't consider sarah palin the leader. but i think that -- >> do you have have? with all respect do you know who the leader is? >> no. that's because it is grassroots. basically the whole things seems to be get the -- you know, go back to the constitution, stop trampling the constitution, stop spending so much money that no one can repay. >> listen, i'm as frustrated as you are. i completely agree. >> i just feel like the republican party better start listening to what some of the people are saying. you know, there is a message. and the republican party has the ability to put that forward. >> i think what's going to happen
if it were really that big, jon stewart and stephen colbert were able to triple the tea party numbers at this rally, it says something. i would never belittle the tea party. i understand why people are angry. spending is out of control. obama has done little to nothing. i'm just as scared as everybody else about a lot of things going on. i think it's poorly organized. i don't understand the message. if sarah palin is the leader, i'm not getting behind it. >> well, i don't consider sarah...
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but i can watch jon stewart and steven colbert, i'm fine with that. they give me just the right number of snippets before my blood starts to boil and explode out of my ears. but the thing that -- the problem i have with stewart and cobert and god bless them, i love them. it's not just the problem everybody has with them these days that they march for sanity and refuse to admit most of the great people are on one side and not the other and a lot of them are in congress. the problem i have is that it's always one thing after another. it's always, look how crazy this is. and look how crazy this is. and look how ridiculous this is. but they -- and it's not their job, they're comedians but they don't lead us to think about all these things together. in other words, you could fix any one of these things and you'd still have all these other problems that we're going to do a show about tomorrow and the next night and the next night and all of these things are really significant road blocks of politics in our country. so i was trying to do two things with this
but i can watch jon stewart and steven colbert, i'm fine with that. they give me just the right number of snippets before my blood starts to boil and explode out of my ears. but the thing that -- the problem i have with stewart and cobert and god bless them, i love them. it's not just the problem everybody has with them these days that they march for sanity and refuse to admit most of the great people are on one side and not the other and a lot of them are in congress. the problem i have is...
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jon speaks to that very directly at occupy wall street the first time we went there, he stood up at the general assembly and said i am here for you. why? because i am you and 43 years later the fight has not yet dead one -- one. it had a powerful residents for every person there and we are thrilled to be perfectly clear at that moment from 1968 still connects with people so strong but we roche this book to end the historical whitewash to let people know it was more than just a moment it was the movement. hoare that a moment, it was a movement. we want people to know when the 1960's now only recognize when dr. king is on a commemorative cut by mcdonald's was much more deeper and radical so much so that a galloped into the world of sports that the top athletes in the world were also part of the struggle. look at basketball at that time. best college basketball player? football player? jim brown. , dolly. part of the struggle. of course, a couple years later the emerging as ford's people like billie jean king it made sense as long as you have the platform you would have to say something ab
jon speaks to that very directly at occupy wall street the first time we went there, he stood up at the general assembly and said i am here for you. why? because i am you and 43 years later the fight has not yet dead one -- one. it had a powerful residents for every person there and we are thrilled to be perfectly clear at that moment from 1968 still connects with people so strong but we roche this book to end the historical whitewash to let people know it was more than just a moment it was the...
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but i can watch jon stewart and steven colbert. they give me the right number of snippets before my blood starts to boil and shoot out of my ears. but the thing -- the problem that i have with stewart and colbert, the problem -- god bless them. it's not just the problem that everybody has with them these guys that they have marched for sanity and refuse to admit that most of the crazy people are in one side, not the other, a lot of them are in congress. the problem that i have is it's always one thing after the other. look how crazy this is. look how ridiculous this is. but they -- it's not their job. they are comedians. but they don't lead us to think about all of these things together. in other words, you could fix any one of these things and still have all of the other problems that they are going to do a show about tomorrow. all of these things are significant roadblocks to sensitive politics in our country. i was trying to do two things with the book. the book had two separate genesises. i believe that's the plural of genesis.
but i can watch jon stewart and steven colbert. they give me the right number of snippets before my blood starts to boil and shoot out of my ears. but the thing -- the problem that i have with stewart and colbert, the problem -- god bless them. it's not just the problem that everybody has with them these guys that they have marched for sanity and refuse to admit that most of the crazy people are in one side, not the other, a lot of them are in congress. the problem that i have is it's always...
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first about we start start with the premise that i have a lifetime -- i have given a lifetime pass to jon meacham because he did a very, very good review of my last book on the war of 1812. [laughter] so he can do almost no harm -- crime. now the thing is that he, and you he know he wrote a book on andrew jackson, and he has a vested interest in andrew andrew jackson. and so, to me, we have a difference of opinion. i think jackson was fantastic in so many ways, are actually almost literally a fantasy figure almost. but, i don't agree with the point. now i mean, meacham is certainly entitled to his opinion but the fact is that men like wilson lumpkin and john ross and the cherokees side, they saw very clearly that this was an early attempt of the north to impose its values on the south and in the case of lumpkin, it was to be resisted. ross at first thought it was a good thing, until a correspondent wrote from philadelphia that it was very bad to get the anti-slavery movement mixed up with the anti-removal movement has so many, even in the north, were not abolitionists. but what you watch
first about we start start with the premise that i have a lifetime -- i have given a lifetime pass to jon meacham because he did a very, very good review of my last book on the war of 1812. [laughter] so he can do almost no harm -- crime. now the thing is that he, and you he know he wrote a book on andrew jackson, and he has a vested interest in andrew andrew jackson. and so, to me, we have a difference of opinion. i think jackson was fantastic in so many ways, are actually almost literally a...
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copies at the book, watched the abc primetime special, morning television and even "the daily show" with jon stewart. and now tonight, live from the kennedy library, with its early history was so carefully house for the past half-century, we hear directly from jacqueline kennedy about her life with our 35th president and from their daughter who has practiced by state to history today. and tom putnam, director of the john f. kennedy presidential library museum and our behalf of the executive director of the kennedy library foundation, members of our foundation board and many of whom are here with us tonight and all of my library and foundation colleagues, a thank you for coming in on those watching on c-span acknowledge the generous underwriters of the candy library for them, boston capital, boston foundation and our media partners, "the boston globe" and debut pr. the opening panel of a new exhibit, and her voice, jacqueline kennedy: the white house terry's with never before seen documents and artifacts from our collection reads jacqueline kennedy had a rare combination of gas. intelligence,
copies at the book, watched the abc primetime special, morning television and even "the daily show" with jon stewart. and now tonight, live from the kennedy library, with its early history was so carefully house for the past half-century, we hear directly from jacqueline kennedy about her life with our 35th president and from their daughter who has practiced by state to history today. and tom putnam, director of the john f. kennedy presidential library museum and our behalf of the...
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copies of the book, watch the abc primetime special morning television and even "the daily show" with jon stewart. and now tonight, live from the kennedy library, with visceral history so carefully house for the past half-century, we will hear directly from jacqueline kennedy about life with our 35th president who brought the fresh new history to life. i'm tom putnam, director of the presidential library museum in on behalf of comic, executive director of the kennedy library foundation, numbers for foundation board all of my foundation colleagues i thank you for common in all those watching on c-span and acknowledge the generous underwriters of the kennedy library forum new sponsor, bank of america, boston capital, the boston foundation and our media partners, "the boston globe" and wbo are. the opening panel, and her voice, jacqueline kennedy to white house years tears this new world history with never before seen documents and artifacts jacqueline kennedy had he dared generation of his intelligent, courage, discipline, and a style all her own. she had an adventurous can was an accomplis
copies of the book, watch the abc primetime special morning television and even "the daily show" with jon stewart. and now tonight, live from the kennedy library, with visceral history so carefully house for the past half-century, we will hear directly from jacqueline kennedy about life with our 35th president who brought the fresh new history to life. i'm tom putnam, director of the presidential library museum in on behalf of comic, executive director of the kennedy library...
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. >> jon porter was a young fellow from butler county kentucky, which is a county down in south-central part of the state who joined the confederate army in october of 1861 the confederate armies occupied southern kentucky, and ultimately became a lieutenant in the ninth kentucky calvary that road with john morgan and he was probably prouder of having ridden through the war with john morgan and he was almost anything he ever did alive, and he handled this memoir for his daughter whose name was bill and he married shortly after the war was over, and his wife died after giving birth so he raised this child along with his two sisters and brother in bowling green kentucky in the county, warren county as a neighboring county to butler and it's the county seat so a rather large community in southern kentucky. and so he raised many bell and wanted many bell to understand what he did during the war. and so in 1872 he set about writing the memoirs, and they were titles then memoirs of my experience in the war for southern independence, and as he says in his little preface to these memoirs that t
. >> jon porter was a young fellow from butler county kentucky, which is a county down in south-central part of the state who joined the confederate army in october of 1861 the confederate armies occupied southern kentucky, and ultimately became a lieutenant in the ninth kentucky calvary that road with john morgan and he was probably prouder of having ridden through the war with john morgan and he was almost anything he ever did alive, and he handled this memoir for his daughter whose...
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and he basically completely kneecapped jon corzine. before he knew it right on the precipice of the ipo in the spring of 1939, corzine was out -- 1999, corzine was out and paulson had used alliances to become ceo and take the firm public. ironically, the two guys who became his allies -- john thain who later became the ceo of merrill lynch and now cit, and john thornton who's now the head of the brookings institute -- these two guys formed an alliance with paulson and with the understanding that paulson was going to be the ceo for a couple of years and then leave and turn it over to these two guys. well, you know, hank being hank, you know, sort of liked the job too much. i mean, he was having a great time being ceo of goldman sachs. frankly, who can blame him? being ceo of a public goldman sachs seems like one of the greatest jobs in the world especially when you're not the target of so much public ire as lloyd blankfein is at the moment. but, you know, hank had the board of directors in his pocket, and they kept wanting him, so he sa
and he basically completely kneecapped jon corzine. before he knew it right on the precipice of the ipo in the spring of 1939, corzine was out -- 1999, corzine was out and paulson had used alliances to become ceo and take the firm public. ironically, the two guys who became his allies -- john thain who later became the ceo of merrill lynch and now cit, and john thornton who's now the head of the brookings institute -- these two guys formed an alliance with paulson and with the understanding...
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copies of the book, watch the abc prime time special, morning television and even "the daily show" with jon stewart and now tonight live from the kennedy library, with this aural history that was so carefully housed for the past half century we'll hear directly from jacqueline kennedy about her life with our 35th president and from their daughter who has brought this fresh new history to light. i'm tom putnam director of the john f kennedy library. and on behalf of ton naught, members of the foundation, many of whom are here with us tonight and all of my library and foundation colleagues. i thank you for coming and all those watching on c-span. and acknowledge the generous underwriters of the kennedy library forums meet born bank of america, boston capital, >> doumths and artifacts from our collection reads, jacqueline kennedy had a rare combination of gifts, intelligence, courage discipline, artistic creativity and a style all her own. she had an adventurous spirit and was an accomplished horse woman who lived life at full gallop. the aural history provides of many mrs. kennedy's personal
copies of the book, watch the abc prime time special, morning television and even "the daily show" with jon stewart and now tonight live from the kennedy library, with this aural history that was so carefully housed for the past half century we'll hear directly from jacqueline kennedy about her life with our 35th president and from their daughter who has brought this fresh new history to light. i'm tom putnam director of the john f kennedy library. and on behalf of ton naught, members...
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nonfiction bestseller list, and the number one book was "america: a fake history of the united states," by jon stewart. never one book on the bestseller book. it was a book of made-up facts, and no one has a problem with that being called nonfiction. and then i write a book that's all true but written in a cinematic way, and people want to writing articles about it. it's bizarre. but anyways, earliest memory, i'm trying to remember something really early -- >> host: well, you just think about that as we move on, and this is an e-mail from todd margo. what does ben mezrich mean when he says he approaches nonfiction from the perspectiveover a thriller? perspective of a thriller? how does that impact the story? it implies he plays up something. >> guest: right. it's a great question. so when i go inside the story and i spend the month researching it, i try and find what the beats of that story are that matter to me and would matter in retelling that story. whenever you tell a story, you make decisions no matter what it is you're talking about. if you're going to talk about the invention of the te
nonfiction bestseller list, and the number one book was "america: a fake history of the united states," by jon stewart. never one book on the bestseller book. it was a book of made-up facts, and no one has a problem with that being called nonfiction. and then i write a book that's all true but written in a cinematic way, and people want to writing articles about it. it's bizarre. but anyways, earliest memory, i'm trying to remember something really early -- >> host: well, you...